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USA: Ex-muslim Wafa Sultan Debates Omar Bakri on Sharia; “definitely we will force Islamic rule on all the world [when] we have power.”

Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad explains Islamic ideology and the principles of Sharia, which is expected to be followed by Islam’s totalitarian system. He clearly explains that Muslims have the right to violate themselves on all non-Muslims and there is no crime or wrong in this. Not only is there no crime in such behavior, but it is encouraged.
It clearly supports the fact that Muslims do indeed, through Western society, violate itself on the citizens by unprovoked attacks, rapes, violence, threats and intimidation and why Muslim immigration need to be banned in the western world, the Quran and minarets need a ban.
“We don’t force people to become Muslim, but definitely we will force Islamic rule on all the world [when] we have power.” –  Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad

Excerpts of live TV debate April 28, 2012, on ABM Arabic TV between Syrian born psychologist and ex-Muslim Dr Wafa Sultan and Omar Bakri Muhammad, an Islamic leader who was instrumental in developing Hizb ut-Tahrir into a major organization in the UK, a mentor to the London 7/7 bombers and vowed in December 2004 that Muslims would give the West “a 9/11, day after day after day…”


Host:  What are human rights under Sharia? Can you explain this for us?

Omar Bakri:  The Sharia has defined human rights [LOL!] for Muslims and non-Muslims. The non-Muslim has chosen not to accept the judgements of Allah. Therefore, yes, his rights differ from those of a Muslim. I say they are not equal. The other party may disagree with me, that’s fine. That’s her opinion. But Islam gave rights to man, in order to satisfy his needs and to take care of his affairs.

Muslims and non-Muslims who have previously made a peace treaty or a dhimmi pact, are equal when it comes to citizenship. In other words, they are the same. The Islamic state and the Islamic Sharia when governed thereby, guarantee their political needs, such as shelter, food, clothing, security, education, and health care, for they are under the care of the Islamic state.

However, this equality does not mean that you are exactly like us. Yes, a non-Muslim under the Islamic Sharia cannot have any rights except those which Allah has legislated for him. Allah has legislated that he may have his belief, religion, clothes, and everything which is needed by all citizens, Muslim or non-Muslim. Now the Muslim has greater rights and respect because he is a Muslim, for Islam is above others, and never below, so the Muslim is above others, and never below.

I don’t believe in the equality of man, because men are not equal in the eyes of Allah. He commanded us to not make them equal. For example, I have the right to marry a Christian or Jewish girl, but it is not permissable for a Jewish man to marry a Muslim girl. This is correct.

I am not calling for equality. When I go to Britain or Europe, I have the same right — my blood and property are inviolable. In exchange, their blood and property are also inviolable through this peace treaty.

Their blood and property have no protection except through a peace treaty or a dhimmi pact. Thus Allah has commanded — you can either accept it or reject it.

Wafa Sultan:  So when you travel to a Western land you consider it the land of Allah, and you want your beliefs to apply there?

Omar Bakri:  No.

Wafa Sultan:  You want to dictate to the native inhabitants of the country what they can do?

Omar Bakri:  I invite them, and if they accept the command of Allah, then they may do so. If they don’t accept, and kick me out of the country, then we will fight against them. The relationship between us is either a pact of belief in Allah, or a peace treaty, or war.

The general rule is that the blood and property of non-Muslims are permissible for us. Their blood and property are not inviolable. It is in their interest to have a peace treaty or dhimmi pact with me. It is in your interest, you who say that you do not believe in Islam, to accept that there be a peace treaty or dhimmi pact between us. The dhimmi pact falls under the Islamic Sharia, but the peace treaty does not subject you to the Sharia. That’s the way it is. Either you accept it, or we will live in a state of war.

The general rule is that the blood and property of infidels are permissible for Muslims. The Prophet Muhammad even said, “I was sent to fight against the people until they testify that there is no god but Allah, and I am the apostle of Allah.”

Therefore if he said, “Their blood and property are inviolable from me,” then their blood and property would be inviolable if they believe in Islam or accept a peace treaty.

It is either through faith or a peace treaty that man lives with his neighbor.

But a Muslim coexist with an infidel either through a peace treaty, a dhimmi pact, or a state of war. This is the basic relationship between a Muslim and an infidel.

Host:  Thank you, Sheikh Omar. You went over your time, but it helps us to gain a complete understanding of the topic.

Dr Wafa, what do you think about what Sheikh Omar Bakri said?

Wafa Sultan:  I think that Sheikh Omar Bakri’s response should be recorded here. He was clear and frank, and explained the doctrine of Islam to the point that there is nothing left for me to reveal of that repulsive truth.

Muslims here in America boast that the human rights recognized worldwide are the same as the rights under Islam. They boast that men’s rights are the same as women’s rights.

They boast that Muslims’ rights are the same as non-Muslims’ rights.

They boast that the Sharia can coexist with the American constitution.

Therefore we should record Sheikh Omar Bakri’s response, for he did not dissemble, but instead manifested the truth of his religion in all its ugliness and hideousness.

Under the Sharia he is required to fight against others until they believe what he believes. Is there anything uglier than this Sharia on the face of the earth? Is there anything uglier than that this should be imposed upon me by force, by arms?

When we tell Americans here that Islam was spread by the sword, Muslims scream that this is not true, that it was spread by tolerance and the free word. But I want to stress what Sheikh Omar Bakri said for he is a true Muslim and has revealed to us the truth of Islam without equivocation.

All the world should take note of the danger of this doctrine and fight against it with all their strengh, for we cannot accept that any man on the face of the earth should force us to believe in his god.

4 thoughts on “USA: Ex-muslim Wafa Sultan Debates Omar Bakri on Sharia; “definitely we will force Islamic rule on all the world [when] we have power.”

  1. Please write to your MP and explain to them that a religion or ideology that has at its heart the intolerance, including death of everyone that will not join it is dangerous and life threatening as it grows in strength in this country. Allowing our own treasured values of free speech and liberty to enforce its provision is tantamount to handing the enemy the gun with which to kill you. We should not allow our own ideals to be mocked in this way. By the way it is illegal to threaten to murder people in this country, it therefore follows that any ideology that has an intention to dominate via the death penalty contravenes an essential law of this country and should be made illegal. It only took 7% of the German people to be practicing Nazis to force the rest to follow or face the death penalty, often of their entire families. By the time Islam is strong it will be too late for the mild of heart in Islam and the rest of us. Read Quran. Surah. Tauba V 5. Page 439, translated Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
    Fight and slay pagans (Non Muslims) wherever you find them. Fight until they repent

    Islam is a religion of war. It was started in the 6th and 7th century by Muhammad a warlord prophet. His youngest wife was 7 years old. He took her from a village in the name of Allah. The Quran and the hadith are more political than religious. More violent than peaceful. Don’t let these so called “moderate Muslims” fool you. Isis is following the scriptures to the tee. Islam teaches war and violence against non-Muslims and non-jihadi Muslims and note that there have been more than 26000 Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11 and 50 Muslim majority countries where there is daily mistreatment and violence against non-Muslims, women and children

    Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing…
    But if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.

    Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

    Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”

    Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.

    Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”

    Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward”

    Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

    Quran (5:38) – “As for the thief, whether male or female, cut their hands as a penalty for what they have reaped-a deterrent from Allah. Allah is Mighty and Wise.”

    Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

    Quran (8:15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (8:16) Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.”

    Quran (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah”

    Quran (8:65) – “O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight…”

    Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”

    Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”

    Qur’an (9:29)—”Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

    Qur’an (9:73)—”O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them.”

    Qur’an (9:111)—”Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah’s way, so they slay and are slain.”

    Qur’an (9:123)—”O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”

    Quran (47:4) – “So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,”

    Qur’an (47:35)—”Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost.”

    Qur’an (48:29)—”Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves.”

    Quran (61:9) – “It is He who sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although those who associate others with Allah dislike it.”

    Ibn Ishaq: 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.

    Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah

    Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”


    • Don’t underestimate the power of brevity.

      Shorter missives can be powerful.

      Each enlightening factoid is worthy of its own missive.


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